While I'm not taking sides on this(I wrote in Assange/Manning), you are being drawn into a dumb argument and missing the big picture.

For one thing, Trump is the luckiest fool in history. He got the whole system in a circular firing squad and is walking out the door as the future we have been borrowing against arrives. Like the movie trailer where the guy is walking out the door, as the building comes crashing down behind him.

If you do want to argue, ask them if they can describe the difference between the scientific method and religious proclamation.

Was every aspect examined to the nth degree and the evidence presented, even if interpretations differ, or was it just, "Jesus saves. " Argue and you get burned at the stake.

Then ask which most fits how the 16 election was treated, compared to the 20.

Though probably better wait until the herd runs off the cliff. Say, first Tuesday in November of 22.